GekkePrutser
Apr 20, 10:16 AM
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And the 13" MBP pulls 48W instead of it's 35W TDP. It's interesting.
I wish we had seen comparable numbers for the current MBA. Does it pull more than advertised under load? How much? If not, why not? Is turbo boost to blame?
The 35W is only the TDP of the processor. It doesn't include the harddrive, screen, chipset, battery charger, etc. So that's perfectly normal.
Also, TDP is not a perfectly accurate figure for power draw. It's the maximum a computer designer should budget for, both in terms of power supply, cooling, etc. So it means that in any case the sustained power draw of the processor alone won't exceed this.
It is, however, perfectly possible that the CPU draws much less power, even in a high-load situation. That could possibly be true for the current C2D's in the MBA, because they are a bit older and therefore intel might have got the process developed a bit more efficiently. So it could well be that the C2D's are working at powers below their TDP budget, while the Sandy Bridge ones are reaching the top of their budget.
And the 13" MBP pulls 48W instead of it's 35W TDP. It's interesting.
I wish we had seen comparable numbers for the current MBA. Does it pull more than advertised under load? How much? If not, why not? Is turbo boost to blame?
The 35W is only the TDP of the processor. It doesn't include the harddrive, screen, chipset, battery charger, etc. So that's perfectly normal.
Also, TDP is not a perfectly accurate figure for power draw. It's the maximum a computer designer should budget for, both in terms of power supply, cooling, etc. So it means that in any case the sustained power draw of the processor alone won't exceed this.
It is, however, perfectly possible that the CPU draws much less power, even in a high-load situation. That could possibly be true for the current C2D's in the MBA, because they are a bit older and therefore intel might have got the process developed a bit more efficiently. So it could well be that the C2D's are working at powers below their TDP budget, while the Sandy Bridge ones are reaching the top of their budget.
tjsdaname
Dec 6, 12:46 AM
I think if there were no guns besides the law enforcements then America would be a much safer place.
you could not be more wrong.....
if you take guns away from the legitimate and responsible owners, then what does that help? did you really make a difference? no....
and all the criminals will still have there guns.
and all the sudden they have just as much power as the law enforcement, and now they don't have to be afraid that I might have my gun when they rob me. because we don't have our guns....
you could not be more wrong.....
if you take guns away from the legitimate and responsible owners, then what does that help? did you really make a difference? no....
and all the criminals will still have there guns.
and all the sudden they have just as much power as the law enforcement, and now they don't have to be afraid that I might have my gun when they rob me. because we don't have our guns....
Parkin Pig
Apr 1, 06:47 AM
Taken at Whitby Goth Weekend.
I had to monochrome the background as the wall was too similar in colour to the model's hair
I had to monochrome the background as the wall was too similar in colour to the model's hair
mdntcallr
Oct 23, 10:23 AM
This is incorrect.
Microsoft's Vista EULA says:
4. USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may not use the software installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system.
This means you can't use the *same* installation of Vista Home inside a virtualization technology on the "licensed device".
This DOES NOT mean you can't use it by itself in a virtualization product on any platform. If that instance of Vista is not installed anywhere else, there is no preexisting "licensed device".
The reason this is included in the EULA is because Vista Business and Ultimate actually include additional licenses specifically so the same license can be used to also run in a virtualization environment on the same device where Vista is already installed.
So, the higher end versions of Vista actually include more in terms of virtualization licensing than any other commercial OS.
In any case, all versions of Vista can be legally used standalone in a virtualized environment, such as Parallels or VMWare.
WELL, if it will work.... maybe this is just some people worrying aloud ahead of time so MS doesnt pull any funny business.
my bet is MS will have windows packages for mac.
Microsoft's Vista EULA says:
4. USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may not use the software installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system.
This means you can't use the *same* installation of Vista Home inside a virtualization technology on the "licensed device".
This DOES NOT mean you can't use it by itself in a virtualization product on any platform. If that instance of Vista is not installed anywhere else, there is no preexisting "licensed device".
The reason this is included in the EULA is because Vista Business and Ultimate actually include additional licenses specifically so the same license can be used to also run in a virtualization environment on the same device where Vista is already installed.
So, the higher end versions of Vista actually include more in terms of virtualization licensing than any other commercial OS.
In any case, all versions of Vista can be legally used standalone in a virtualized environment, such as Parallels or VMWare.
WELL, if it will work.... maybe this is just some people worrying aloud ahead of time so MS doesnt pull any funny business.
my bet is MS will have windows packages for mac.
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aafuss1
Aug 15, 11:34 PM
Where's drag and drop tabs in Safari-Firefox has that.
Legion93
Apr 14, 04:49 AM
Fry has serious adulation for Apple products. No surprise he did the black to white conversion with the phone.
Wow, really? So he's got a White iPhone 4? Did you see it?
Wow, really? So he's got a White iPhone 4? Did you see it?
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Cougarcat
Mar 31, 01:04 PM
I guess now that Macs are only 20% of revenue, we're getting the "B-team" developers and designers.
Bad interfaces based on silly metaphors isn't a new phenomenon at Apple. May I remind you of this abomination?
http://www.dailyapplequiz.com/wp-content/uploads/quicktime_4_player.jpg
Bad interfaces based on silly metaphors isn't a new phenomenon at Apple. May I remind you of this abomination?
http://www.dailyapplequiz.com/wp-content/uploads/quicktime_4_player.jpg
SchneiderMan
Jan 31, 02:24 PM
This Rattleware espresso tamper
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31-W3B5gkmL._SS500_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31-W3B5gkmL._SS500_.jpg
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aperry
Apr 26, 12:41 PM
Raise a glass to the home server!
Many of us have been streaming our music for years.
Many of us have been streaming our music for years.
inlovewithi
Apr 13, 03:21 PM
The iPad has already blown away the "Apple makes overpriced stuff myth" out of the water. If you are still clinging on to this, let it go and find another useful argument.
Most of the products in Apple's line up are competitively priced or more affordable than its competitors...and don't compare iMac's to desktop boxes it's an all-in-one a different form factor.
Apple makes insane profits because their products sell...in extraordinary numbers not because they are overpriced. Fact is if Apple only makes income because of the premium, people will not continue to buy them if they don't work well.
If you want to dispute what I said, try making your own product, design a pretty logo for it and sell it at a premium. See how that works out for you.
What does the iPad or anything I sad have to do with my suggestion? My point was very simple and has nothing to do with any other Apple product. I simply suggested that Apple would still make a huge profit if they simply made a regular television and charge extra for it.
Most of the products in Apple's line up are competitively priced or more affordable than its competitors...and don't compare iMac's to desktop boxes it's an all-in-one a different form factor.
Apple makes insane profits because their products sell...in extraordinary numbers not because they are overpriced. Fact is if Apple only makes income because of the premium, people will not continue to buy them if they don't work well.
If you want to dispute what I said, try making your own product, design a pretty logo for it and sell it at a premium. See how that works out for you.
What does the iPad or anything I sad have to do with my suggestion? My point was very simple and has nothing to do with any other Apple product. I simply suggested that Apple would still make a huge profit if they simply made a regular television and charge extra for it.
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robeddie
Apr 21, 10:22 AM
Or Apple realized most people don't need a backlit keyboard? I honestly don't see a need for one, and I'm guessing most users don't need it. So it was probably a easy option to axe for either space or battery life. Don't expect it to return.
I don't know, it's been on all aluminum models since 2003. After all these years Apple decided no one really wanted it? (A lot of people on these forums obviously wouldn't agree with that).
To save battery life? You can turn it off if you want. Problem solved.
I don't know, it's been on all aluminum models since 2003. After all these years Apple decided no one really wanted it? (A lot of people on these forums obviously wouldn't agree with that).
To save battery life? You can turn it off if you want. Problem solved.
SeaFox
Dec 2, 07:16 PM
I for one, welcome our new Adware overloards.
-1, Overrated
-1, Overrated
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BlackMax
Apr 18, 04:37 PM
I'm a little confused. People want to play games on this?
Would not be my first choice for gaming (not that I play games, but I did do flight sims once)
Is there anything else I should be concerned about? Maybe external monitor resolution? Movies?....I don't think so.
Big problem for intensive video stuff perhaps? but then again; an Air?
:confused:
I have a 11" MBA. I did not buy it to play games, but for work and ease of travel. BUT... I enjoy having the *option* to play the occasional game if the mood strikes me. :)
With my Black MacBook gaming was never an option because of the integrated Intel graphics.
I believe many MBA owners are like me and want a MBA that provides them with as many options as possible. Thus it is just a tad disconcerting when there is a good possibility the next generation MBA might reduce the number of options it provides to its owners. Then it again, it might not. Only time will tell. That is part of the fun of speculating on MacRumors.
Would not be my first choice for gaming (not that I play games, but I did do flight sims once)
Is there anything else I should be concerned about? Maybe external monitor resolution? Movies?....I don't think so.
Big problem for intensive video stuff perhaps? but then again; an Air?
:confused:
I have a 11" MBA. I did not buy it to play games, but for work and ease of travel. BUT... I enjoy having the *option* to play the occasional game if the mood strikes me. :)
With my Black MacBook gaming was never an option because of the integrated Intel graphics.
I believe many MBA owners are like me and want a MBA that provides them with as many options as possible. Thus it is just a tad disconcerting when there is a good possibility the next generation MBA might reduce the number of options it provides to its owners. Then it again, it might not. Only time will tell. That is part of the fun of speculating on MacRumors.
lilo777
Apr 23, 12:21 AM
The fact is, we've been through this before. The iPhone 1 was going to be a huge failure because it didn't have 3G. They were concerned about coverage and battery life. It's the same issue now.
People are saying apple should make those sacrifices now to keep up with technology. But nobody is addressing the fact that apple has historical evidence that this is a sound approach.
So many people just love to see every issue from the Apple perspective. There are people who get paid for that. Should not you - as a consumer - care more about the gadget you want than Apple success?
Using two separate chips eats battery life. Not to mention LTE is still "just" coming out, so it won't be widespread enough to take advantage of it until 2012 anyway.
Apple does not have to use two chips. They could just design separate phone for Verizon (just like iPhone 4) which does not support GSM. Not ideal but that's where technology is today. At least Verizon customers could enjoy iPhone 5 with LTE.
People are saying apple should make those sacrifices now to keep up with technology. But nobody is addressing the fact that apple has historical evidence that this is a sound approach.
So many people just love to see every issue from the Apple perspective. There are people who get paid for that. Should not you - as a consumer - care more about the gadget you want than Apple success?
Using two separate chips eats battery life. Not to mention LTE is still "just" coming out, so it won't be widespread enough to take advantage of it until 2012 anyway.
Apple does not have to use two chips. They could just design separate phone for Verizon (just like iPhone 4) which does not support GSM. Not ideal but that's where technology is today. At least Verizon customers could enjoy iPhone 5 with LTE.
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SMM
Oct 18, 10:03 PM
Apple has had a phenomenal run. They are doing this on all fronts. They have 2 Billion CASH! That is a big deal. It keeps the R&D funded. Soon they will be launching their new iWork suite and FCE. Both will provide another big boost in sales of HW.
Last January, the majority opinion suggested Apple Mac sales would at best be flat for a year while they transitioned to Intel. Yet, they have continued to increase across the board, in almost all product lines. This has been one h**l of an accomplishment.
Apple has it all going. I expect them to really make a significant statement over the next 6 months. I know they have really been keeping a closed door (and taking a lot of heat) recently. But, timing is everything. Things are going to explode. You shall bear witness.
You MS and Dell folk, who are posting on here, think of your future. Dump those pitiful stocks, which are going nowhere, and buy APPL.
Last January, the majority opinion suggested Apple Mac sales would at best be flat for a year while they transitioned to Intel. Yet, they have continued to increase across the board, in almost all product lines. This has been one h**l of an accomplishment.
Apple has it all going. I expect them to really make a significant statement over the next 6 months. I know they have really been keeping a closed door (and taking a lot of heat) recently. But, timing is everything. Things are going to explode. You shall bear witness.
You MS and Dell folk, who are posting on here, think of your future. Dump those pitiful stocks, which are going nowhere, and buy APPL.
maclaptop
Apr 22, 10:40 AM
So what is Apple waiting for with the iPhone 5?
Apple is adrift in a sea of uncertainty and confusion.
It was bound to happen, they've opened the door wide. The competition is rushing through.
This movie is getting very interesting.
Apple is adrift in a sea of uncertainty and confusion.
It was bound to happen, they've opened the door wide. The competition is rushing through.
This movie is getting very interesting.
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lbro
Apr 22, 07:21 PM
The posts start at 0, not one.
Did you thumb them back up, or were you under a misconception?
Somebody must have thumbed them back up. They were all at -1 except the one from aggie.
Did you thumb them back up, or were you under a misconception?
Somebody must have thumbed them back up. They were all at -1 except the one from aggie.
Snowy_River
Jul 25, 01:25 AM
Re: Zune already features none-touch technology
I wouldn't touch one.
Zune already features none-touch technology? Huh? Zune doesn't even exist yet (at least from a consumer point of view), so how can you say it already has anything?
Comparing two products that haven't been released (nor even had their specs officially released) seems quite pointless...
I wouldn't touch one.
Zune already features none-touch technology? Huh? Zune doesn't even exist yet (at least from a consumer point of view), so how can you say it already has anything?
Comparing two products that haven't been released (nor even had their specs officially released) seems quite pointless...
nsutt22
Jul 25, 07:57 AM
I want one! I want one!
Michael Scrip
May 4, 04:25 AM
Indeed - Apple make money from the sale of iphone hardware whereas Google will only take a percentage.
However, Google's plan is to control OS's because they then make money from their App store and adverts
Apple identified this last year and thus released the Ad-Sense scheme for devs to tempt them to use Apple's App Store over Googles.
Even if Apple and Google both make money from ads and apps... Apple still gets $600 per phone.
Apple has the right idea :D
"Android" can have their marketshare... I don't think it bothers Apple in the least.
However, Google's plan is to control OS's because they then make money from their App store and adverts
Apple identified this last year and thus released the Ad-Sense scheme for devs to tempt them to use Apple's App Store over Googles.
Even if Apple and Google both make money from ads and apps... Apple still gets $600 per phone.
Apple has the right idea :D
"Android" can have their marketshare... I don't think it bothers Apple in the least.
jaster2
Mar 31, 09:23 PM
Let's see. How about putting back the option to have alarm alerts turned off if iCal is closed but still on if opened. Anyone who ever uses their laptop for presentations would be so happy to have that feature back. How about putting back the ability to click once on an item in Month view and seeing details. Seriously. Is the point to keep taking away functions and make it look super hokey?
Keleko
Apr 4, 02:48 PM
It is little known that the Greeks made it all the way over to Kentucky. But, here is the proof from Hopkinsville, KY.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5587074293_0debd07671_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22077805@N07/5587074293/)
Let's pretend I posted this version yesterday instead... :)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5106/5589940554_084d12e3d0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22077805@N07/5589940554/in/photostream/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5587074293_0debd07671_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22077805@N07/5587074293/)
Let's pretend I posted this version yesterday instead... :)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5106/5589940554_084d12e3d0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22077805@N07/5589940554/in/photostream/)
samcraig
Apr 29, 05:39 PM
I don't have a blu-ray player and have no plans on buying one. I also don't have an HD TV, still using a 10+ year old Sony Trinitron. It's not broke so it's not getting replaced till it is.
I buy all my TV shows on iTunes in HD and watch them on my 15" MBP.
Even if Amazon has 69 cent songs, I I will likely continue buying on iTunes. Over the past year, most music has been purchased on my iPhone while I am out. Can't do that with Amazon.
You aren't the audience I was addressing though, naturally...
I buy all my TV shows on iTunes in HD and watch them on my 15" MBP.
Even if Amazon has 69 cent songs, I I will likely continue buying on iTunes. Over the past year, most music has been purchased on my iPhone while I am out. Can't do that with Amazon.
You aren't the audience I was addressing though, naturally...
Legion93
May 1, 11:01 PM
As long as it has Zombies I'm game. Killing Nazi zombies was getting old anyways.
Taliban zombies...
Weapons:
AK-47
C4
RPG-7
Round 1, fight!
Taliban zombies...
Weapons:
AK-47
C4
RPG-7
Round 1, fight!
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